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I was going off this quote from the Indiegogo Campaign:

"It will also have expanded content. LotFP is a living, growing game and so the advice in the book needs to be updated. But it will not replace the old advice, rather it will be presented alongside the previous advice in the book to highlight the fact that there is no one right way to play the game."

I interpreted it as this book will exist next to the previous book, but I suppose it could also mean reprinting the previous advice in this book and then adding new stuff alongside it.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lotf … feree-book

I think it's no coincidence that Death Love Doom is PWYW for October.  It's also one that I read later on in the catalog and I was still surprised by how disturbing some of the parts were.  So I second this vote!

I have moved to a classless system.  It uses LotFP as its base (including some of the alternate rules suggested in Green Devil Face #4 and #5).

It allows players to create virtually any character concept they want, and allows me to phase in new ideas via titles/special abilities when I think them up (or more likely, "steal" them from other systems, blogs, etc.)

http://thegruenextdoor.blogspot.com/201 … class.html

It is entirely my intention to go to Gencon next year (for the first time) and run a LotFP game.

The above post is pretty much right on.  I just want to second it, and say specifically:

Better Than Any Man is pure gold, and I think it's the perfect place to start.  I have also run Tower of the Stargazer and The God That Crawls.  Both were hits with my group.

Welcome to a great game!  (And I agree that Raggi's writing and aesthetics are the biggest draw - I heartily recommend the low fantasy/early modern era setting that he uses as it meshes well with his published modules.)

This was a great read!

My players suffered from "Pathfinderitis" when they played the Tower of the Stargazer.  One of them went in the dungeon area to look in to the bloody bucket, was nabbed by the giant spider, instantly killed (failed poison saving throw) and dragged down into the spider's crevasse to be feasted upon.

The rest of the party was all about saving him.  They were trying to figure out the best way to crawl down into the crevasse, etc., until I handed him a new character sheet (about 30 minutes after their machinations, discussion, etc.)

Since then, they *mostly* get it.

If I had it to do over, I might have given one of them a rumor about a contact within the church, or some minor motivation to investigate the church.  In my head I thought that was an obvious choice, but when it played out, it seemed like for them the only way in was through the side door (ie, none of them even brought up the idea of entering through the church...)

It would have been more interesting to see a discussion between using the side door, or going in through the church and what they would have done.

You could also just wait a bit and pick up the new Referee book when it's out.  I think, judging by what I've seen so far, the weird will really come out in that.

I agree that the published adventures also capture the feeling well.  Better Than Any Man is wonderful (and free!) but is available only in PDF.  If you only want to go for print, start with: The God That Crawls and the Monolith from Beyond Space and Time.

Scenic Dunnsmouth is also probably a good bet (but I can't say for sure as I'm waiting for my ref book to come in so I can get everything new all at once...)

Reviving an old thread.  I'm mainly trying to clarify that Crossbows get the -2 AC vs. unarmored people.  I can see both sides:

1) No, b/c basically the dart punctures armor and isn't going to do much more damage whether it's going through armor or unarmored flesh.  You're getting a dart no matter what.  So the penalty just means armor isn't as effective, but it's still going up against a minimum of 12 b/c that's an unarmored human.

2) Yes, it always lowers the target's AC by 2 no matter what armor, if any, they're wearing.

So basically, does it lower an unarmored human's AC to 10 when attacking with it?

Has anybody run Adventure 10 all the way through?  I'm running it as is, and my players just had to deal with the section where they lose their most valuable item.  They were frustrated b/c all the smart thinking on their part to protect this item didn't mean anything, it was just taken.  They went through Hell to get it back (including two deaths, losing all their hirelings and NPC friends, and all of their other valuables) and the very next trigger makes it worthless.  I'm almost afraid to run it b/c of the backlash I know I'll get!  Do I go for it?  Or do I back off here?

My opinion, take it for what you will:

I think as long as the character is conscious/alive, the player should be given a choice as to whether they want to speak up. 

When they speak, have the guard strike them, then roll damage (probably a d4, but could be a d3).  Tell them to mark off that amount of damage on their sheet.  When they reach 0, they go unconscious.  (You know that this is just "temporary" damage that causes them to go unconscious, but they don't need to know that right now...and bonus: you don't even have to say they're passed out..."You see Archie slump in his stocks, a gash on his forehead trickles blood.")

Consider having the guard say, "Quiet your filthy mouth before the queen!" or some such thing so the players have some idea why they're being struck.

Consequences:

This will allow a stubborn player to keep talking if they'd like, and eventually they'll get knocked out and shut up.

Players will know (or at least think) you mean business and that you might be willing to kill them right now in the opening scene.

Players have more choice and control.

A knocked out player can later be doused with water.  You tell them that their hit points are back, but they have a penalty to their Wis/Int for a while due to a pounding headache.

Consequences of the saving throw route:

A player fails their saving throw and you tell them they've been hit on the head and can't talk.  Player says, "What?  Why can't I talk?  Did they damage my throat or mouth?  When can I talk again?  Can I spit?  Can I make growling noises?  Can I scream nonsense?"

All the players pass their saving throws and just keep talking to the queen as much as they want.

If you can't have everything, I wouldn't recommend "Adventure 10" as one of your slots of purchases.  It isn't an adventure, just a series of horrible encounters for your players.  It's certainly fun (and I'm happy I have it) but you'll get more mileage out of other stuff.

The God That Crawls
Better Than Any Man (free PDF - the print is probably too expensive now, though...)
The Monolith Beyond Time and Space

And more stuff coming down the pike (Death Frost Doom reprint, as well) if you want to get something new...

(That said, if you plan on owning everything someday - you may want to get it now before it's gone forever - I doubt it will ever get reprinted and I don't think it will ever be a PDF...)