Topic: Ship Talk

Hello First Time Poster, Big time fan.

I have always had a interest in the Age of Sail, the Elizabethan era and the 30 Years War, So I was very excited when LotFP came out with its dark period feel.

While I was reading the maritime section of the rule book I was struck at the odd stats for the ships especially the galleon.

I was curious, what galleon was used as the basis?

Re: Ship Talk

ahh, I'll admit that the ship stats really don't map to much in the way of reality. I have a small pile of reference books I used but they were really very sparse on information that would be useful for game stats...

This maritime system was extensively used in playing the Weird New World adventure, so it's a workable, usable system, but I'm all ears for a more accurate representation of the ships (and would be interested in doing a full supplement if someone could bring the goods).

Re: Ship Talk

Well I am no expert on the subject but over the years I have complied various factoids for use in a campaign I have been working on. I have recently been working on converting it from 2nd Edition to LotFP. I was using the "A Mighty Fortress" supplement from 2nd Edition for a lot of my gunpowder rules. The trick I discovered is to keep a narrow focus on a certain time period as to keep thing simple

For my campaign I use a tech level close to 1550 AD to 1650 AD. Since there was no real uniform construction no two ships were exactly alike. I stuck with 5 different classifications.

  • The Sloop (based on Bermuda Sloop)  - small ships, 100 tons carried about 75 men

  • The Brigantine (based on Brig)  -  150 tons, carried about 100 men

  • The Schooner (based on Two-masted Schooner)  - 100 tons, carried about 75 men

  • The Frigate or the "Man-O-War"  - 360 tons carrying about 190 men

  • The Square-Rigger or Galleon  - 100 -150 tons, carried about 80-85 Men

One thing that struck me is how slow all of your ships are. See Comparison below. A historical galleon is about 76% faster if both ships are sailing under the same conditions.


These are the historical details for The Golden Hind, Sir Francis Drake's English Galleon.


•    Crew: 20 officers & gentlemen, 40 to 60 crew, including a Master, Mate, Cook and 10 to 12 deckhands
•    Masts: 3
      o    Sails 6, 5 square sails and lateen
•    Hull: wooden
•    Hull dimensions:
      o    Length:
               Overall: 120 ft (36.5 m)
               Hull: 102 ft (31 m)
               Waterline: 75 ft (23 m)
       o    Breadth: 22 ft (6.7 m)
       o    Depth: 13.5 ft (4.1 m)
       o    Displacement: 300 tons (305 tons)
•    Beam: 20 ft (6 m)
•    Height of mainmast: 92 ft (27 m)
•    Sail area: 4150 sq ft (386 m²)
•    Speed (sail): 8 knots (15 km/h)[9 mi/h]
•    Steering: Whip Staff Rudder.
•    Capstan: used for hauling up the anchor, located in the armory and gun deck
•    Crew complement: 80-85
•    Armaments: 22 guns
       o    2 Peteras (small guns) on poop deck
       o    2 Peteras on fore deck
       o    2 Falcons (long range guns using two pound shot) in forecastle
       o    2 Falcons in stern
       o    14 Minions (guns using four pound shot) on gun deck
•    Load Cap: 100-150 tons (100-150 tons)
•    Maximum Capacity: 95

LotFP  Galleon, Excellent Quailty

•    Crew: 150 (1 Captain, 1 Navigator, 14 Mates, 134 Crew)
•    Masts: ?
      o    Sails square sails
•    Hull: wooden
•    Hull dimensions:
      o    Length:
                    Overall: ?
                    Hull: ?
                    Waterline:?
       o    Breadth: ?
       o    Depth: ?
       o    Displacement: ?
•    Beam: ?
•    Height of mainmast: ?
•    Sail area: ?
•    Speed (sail): 1.9 knots (3.5 km/h)[2.2 mi/h]
•    Steering:?.
•    Capstan:?
•    Crew complement: 130+
•    Armaments: ?
•    Load Cap: 150 tons (150 tons)
•    Maximum Capacity: 150

Last edited by Evil Eli (2011-06-25 20:49:37)

Re: Ship Talk

And for crew information, here is a complete list of crew positions and there pay rates.


Master (Captain)             £3 -/-
Master’s Mate (1st Mate)     £1 5/-
Pilot (2nd Mate)             £1 5/-
Boatswain (Senior NCO)      £1 5/-
Boatswains Mate             £0 17/6¢
Quarter-Masters (NCO)     £0 17/6¢
Quarter-Masters Mate     £0 13/9¢
Master Carpenter             £1 5/-
Caulker, Carpenters Mate    £0 17/6¢
Purser                             £0 16/8¢
Steward                             £0 17/6¢
Stewards Mate              £0 13/9¢
Cook                             £0 17/6¢
Cook’s Mate                     £0 13/0¢
Surgeon                             £1 -/-
Trumpeters                     £1 -/-
Drum                             £0 15/-
Fife                                     £0 15/-
Coxswain                      £0 17/6¢
Coxswain’s Mate             £0 13/9¢
Swabber                             £0 13/9¢
Swabber’s Mate             £0 11/3¢
Armorer                             £0 18/8¢
Gunsmith                             £0 18/8¢
Master Gunner                     £0 15/-
Quarter Gunner             £0 11/3¢
Quarter Gunner’s Mate     £0 11/3¢
Yeoman of the Powder Room    £0 11/3¢
Able Seaman                     £0 10/3¢
Ships Boy                          £0 5/-